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Question of hate

There’s something I’ve been wondering since we’re ripping down all these statues and everything. Malcolm X. He was a Muslim, an African Muslim. He did not like white people. He represented hate. Do all the paintings and murals and statues of him get to remain because he’s African, even though he promoted hate? Just wondering.

Playing politics

It’s becoming pretty obvious that Nancy Pelosi is holding another stimulus check hostage. In other words, they’re hoping Joe Biden gets elected so he can hand out the stimulus checks and be some kind of hero. I get really tired of politicians playing “gotcha!” and letting the American people suffer. But they do it, because as Nancy Pelosi said one time, “$1,000? That’s chump change.”

Election masks

I just read the editorial about Mary Garvey. One other thing that she needs to do is wear her mask when she goes into polling places. At the last election, I was in a line where she was the only one without a mask. Some lady asked her to please put on a mask and she held up her hands and said, “Oh, I’m good.”

Cover the nose

Oh my God, that poor girl at the gun and knife show doesn’t even know how to wear a mask.

Follow the money

I have to comment on “No on 3” and “Yes on 3.” I’m a yes on 3. It (Clean Missouri in 2018) passed by the voters because they were not told who the financial backers were. Why are we supporting an amendment that socialists want?

More on the nose

We ate at a restaurant in St. Joe on Saturday and there were several servers wearing their masks below their nose. Are there regulations about how a mask should be worn?

Poor children

Can we really trust the judgement of a woman who would bring her young children to her nomination ceremony at the White House? This during a pandemic and where 95% of those in close proximity to those children wore no masks. We have since learned that at least seven of those attendees tested positive for COVID, one of whom sat directly behind those children.

Mr. Quarantine

Biden says he’s going to disclose coronavirus tests and wait for Trump’s diagnosis. But what about any tests he took before that? He was hiding out in his basement for a long time, and there were long periods where no one saw or heard from him. Perhaps he had the virus and was holed up so America wouldn’t know while he recuperated. We’ll never know the truth. He’s lied about stuff before.

Placing blame

A letter to the editor asked the question, “Who’s to blame for the madness of the riots?” It’s the police. They bully Black people, and sometimes kill unarmed Black men and boys.

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bigoak

Munchman and aj--Legitimate question--do the two of you talk with one another to coordinate your posts on this forum? Just wondering.

aj0201@gmail.col

1/ Trump cut off stimulus talks. It's almost as if he has a political death wish and will take down Republicans with him.

His campaign people are staring mutely at the screens of their phones, stunned and depressed.

Stepien was just on with the pollsters. Ooops. Blindsided.

2/ The desperation is growing in the campaign. They've watched the tracker. They see how badly they've bled out since the debate and his manic behavior since diagnosed.

The stunts aren't moving the numbers. Even the base is fading. Seniors fading. Noncollege whites fading.

3/ What happens next? Well, a lot of places are about to end rent and mortgage forebearance. The COVID bounce is coming.

There is no vaccine. There is no scalable therapy. (What Trump got at Walter Reed was bespoke and expensive.)

More pain is coming because he has failed.

4/ He has failed in every meaningful way and COVID will be his grim legacy. The Trump reality distortion field is cracked and broken; if he's *lucky* history will brutalize him as a clown, a joke, a man without the intelligence to govern either the nation or himself.

5/ The more likely course of history will paint him forever as corrupt, mentally ill, and a wannabe authoritarian without a single redeeming quality.

He will be seen as the first anti-American President, a man who reduced our nation at home and abroad.

6/ His elected enablers will lose, if not this cycle then next. Some will try to wash off Trumpism, but it's a combination of septic muck, stripper glitter, and authoritarian nationalism. "Donald Who?" will rise from their lips daily.

*They* were just being loyal to the party.

aj0201@gmail.col

Six months after Easter, Trump’s own White House can’t even open

aj0201@gmail.col

Eric Trump speaking on North Dakota radio last week on his dad's accomplishments says of his father, "he literally saved Christianity."

eye4.n.eye2day@gmail.com

.. not a facet of my life, DON'T CARE

aj0201@gmail.col

jdw or Alice, like jdw’s question about baptism, is belief in the rapture part of salvation?

jdw64485

No it's not part of salvation. But being a part or not. It's going to happen.

eye4.n.eye2day@gmail.com

Trump has given Nancy Pelosi the middle finger AGAIN !!!! Coronavirus stimulus: President Trump calls off talks with Democrats. #GO-TRUMP

Alice Lookingglass

At Biden's recent town hall meeting: “How do you plan to decrease the regulatory burden for farmers and businesses as a whole?”

Biden’s Green New Deal: instead of making it easier for a farm to harvest and market its crop to consumers, a Biden progressive-socialist administration would become the key consumer and your government would pay the farm to grow whatever the government thinks it should grow & harvest.

How can we entrust Washington DC’s self-servingly myopic government to run the world’s greatest-ever agricultural engine?

bigoak

Question of hate---Sorry, only works one way.

bigoak

COVID--the Left has gone hysterical over a disease no worse than the common flu. The elderly and those with serious diseases are victims of both, and that is sad. But it is reality. The paranoia created by the Democrats demonstrates t he sheep-like attitude of Democrats. Baaa!

aj0201@gmail.col

Show me a year where flu took 210,000 souls in 7 months. I’ll wait......

Alice Lookingglass

AJ300 - That is a really stupid comment - how about comparing population percentages with other pandemics and then with Covid-19?

aj0201@gmail.col

Ok. Go ahead.

Alice Lookingglass

It's your move Ex-lax...you're the one that asked to be shown.

aj0201@gmail.col

Right. “...be shown....”. I didn’t ask to do the work for you. Show me.

eye4.n.eye2day@gmail.com

it's ALL about population percentages, NOT just numbers.

Alice Lookingglass

On a positive note - no one has died of old age since March...

aj0201@gmail.col

Great. Use percentages. Make the case you’re trying to make. Show that covid and flu are comparable.

aj0201@gmail.col

Heartless comment, Alice.

eye4.n.eye2day@gmail.com

show me... show me...it's always "show me". the poorly educated ALWAYS have a need to be shown.. that's why Google is so popular ...

aj0201@gmail.col

Because Trumpers tend to pull things out of their backsides and call what they find fact. When asked for supporting evidence or a source, they get miffed and say things like you just did.

eye4.n.eye2day@gmail.com

you are the dumbest clown ever... show me, hahaha, you are a trip on a never ending river headed south. .good luck... pulling your rear end outa your head

eye4.n.eye2day@gmail.com

go converse with your thug friends

bigoak

Placing blame--One of the most ignorant calls in the history of IYC. I suggest the next time you are in a dangerous situation you call a black person to save you.

eye4.n.eye2day@gmail.com

behaving properly, one would NOT need saving

eye4.n.eye2day@gmail.com

it will be VERY interesting if the Supreme Court becomes a 6-3 conservative court.

eye4.n.eye2day@gmail.com

Roe v Wade

same sex marriage

election fallout

Affordable Care Act

aj0201@gmail.col

What do you think their primary job is?

Alice Lookingglass

The Democrats have already ramped up a smear campaign against Amy Coney Barrett just like they did with Brett Kavanaugh. And suddenly Christine Blasey Ford recalls that Barrett was the other woman at that party. Sound far fetched?? Just wait...

eye4.n.eye2day@gmail.com

hahaha the Dems pull out Blasey again...the idiot that remembers NOTHING

aj0201@gmail.col

Placing blame...several days ago, a police officer was filmed rolling his bicycle over the head of a protester who was on the ground. This is an assault with a depraved indifference to that person. That action is why protests and riots continue. But more importantly, the fact that the officer continued on his way for that shift and was then placed on “administrative leave” is why they continue. And furthermore, the Presidents response of sending in military to stop the riots is why they continue.

Want a real solution? If the officers near that cop had stopped and arrested their coworker for assault, the riots would stop. Better yet, it seems every day you can find a video of police acting with disregard and outside their training. Riots wouldn’t be happening if Derek Chauvin had just done his job. Or if the other officers present had merely said, “hey, get off his neck.” Or if they had the courage to arrest him for the assault. Or if they had not knocked the old man over in Buffalo. Or if they had arrested the officer who committed that assault. So on and so on. Soldiers aren’t the solution. Officers doing their job properly is the solution.

WakeUpUSA

Aj is a MASTER of Placing Blame... A real accuser of the brethren... [whistling][huh]

Even if he has to 'juice up' a cut-and-paste story from Leftist America-haters he scours the internet for... [ninja]

WakeUpUSA

Of COURSE police should do their jobs. As should soldiers. As should Democrat Congress members. As should Mayors. As should prosecutors. [whistling][huh]

eye4.n.eye2day@gmail.com

what 7 letters does AJ say when he opens his purse ? OICURMT

eye4.n.eye2day@gmail.com

or if AJ complained daily about everything anti-establishment, like he PRETENDS to control the whole world, this pretend fantasyland that AJ lives in would exist without him or his daily bellicose line of bullcrap. nothing from nothing leaves AJ (nothing)

eye4.n.eye2day@gmail.com

expand the policing, run over the thugs.

eye4.n.eye2day@gmail.com

animosity on IYC would not be happening if AJ would do his job, and just LEAVE lmao btw Floyd was a known criminal and resisting arrest .... no matter how AJ attempts to spin it.

eye4.n.eye2day@gmail.com

funny how soldiers in other countries do their jobs and put down rioting .. BRING 'EM ON

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aj0201@gmail.col

Yes he did all of that. Show me in any police training anywhere that an officer should roll over his head? Obviously the guy wasn’t committing a crime. Wanna know how we can determine that? No cop made an attempt to stop and arrest that man. Over a dozen protesters were arrested that night. Not that one. He was assaulted by police.

Trumpers sure love fascism. Sadly, they don’t understand the term so they don’t know that about themselves. “Send in the troops. Arrest those who are dissenting. Who cares if people get hurt.” The motto of the fascist Trumper.

eye4.n.eye2day@gmail.com

who cares if the protesters get hurt ? go back home and shut up !!

eye4.n.eye2day@gmail.com

show me.....

jdw64485

aj, you're really good at pointing out all the bad. The police do but it seems you can never see or fine any thing good the police do. There's a lot more good police officers than bad. From yesterday. I gave you the verses to look up showing Jesus did come back twice. The first time his children met him in the air. Both the dead and the alive. The second time was when he came back and brought his children with him to reign the new heaven and new earth. Anyway you look at it that's 2 times. Not once as you say. I think the problem is you hate to admit your wrong so your avoiding the verses. But if you can and will show me in the Bible where Jesus only returned once. I'll be more than willing to read it. You can use any Bible you want. Just let me know which version. I'll be waiting for those verses. This will be my last comment on this subject if you don't reply. Because everyone will know you can admit you was wrong.

aj0201@gmail.col

Use all those same verses. Show me where it says he comes once then comes again using those verses.

Alice Lookingglass

jdw - I read what you posted regarding Billy Graham's interpretation of the rapture and I 100% agree with what he said. Rev Graham was a Bible scholar and God used him to bring many people to Christ. Aj300 needs to study eschatology and the book of Revelation - I have done that extensively and even led a study on it. You and I both know what it says.

jdw64485

Good grief aj read the Bible it's all there. You still haven't shown where Jesus only comes back once. I have given you the verses but you need to read it. I'm not going to do it for you

eye4.n.eye2day@gmail.com

.. show me.....

aj0201@gmail.col

Chose any version you want. They all say the same thing.

jdw64485

No they don't all say the same. Sit down and compare the niv to the KJ. There's several changes.

aj0201@gmail.col

None that change the meaning.

aj0201@gmail.col

Nowhere are you promised to not face tribulation.

Alice Lookingglass

Reprobates have a problem understanding scripture and also eschatology. God has closed their minds and hearts. Sad, very sad indeed!

aj0201@gmail.col

Show me where it says the Jesus will come and the come again.

Then, show me where if one person believes a particular eschatological theory they’re a reprobate while the other is counted as righteous.

Here is the last part of the article jdw posted. Maybe it’d be good to get the whole meaning of an article?

“All Christians do not agree on every detail of what will occur in the final events of this world’s history. Some of these events and their order of occurrence have simply not been made clear in the Bible. What is important is that all Christians hold in common that Christ will ultimately return bodily, visibly, and gloriously to reign and rule with His resurrected and transformed saints forever and ever. The details of this great event will be made known in God’s own time.”

Alice Lookingglass

AJ300 - I've been promised not to be present to face the tribulation...guess you weren't, huh? God's Word makes it very clear about the rapture and the end times. jdw is right!

You just want to argue...and make a fool out of yourself. Be my guest!

jdw64485

It's plain to see that you need to study the Bible more deeply. You need to find. A pastor to help you understand I would invite you to come to our service where you will hear the word of God preached.

aj0201@gmail.col

Where is that promise, Alice? Be wise. I’ve a pretty good thought of what verse you’ll choose. Make sure your context is clear.

aj0201@gmail.col

So jdw, you didn’t read what the very article you read said? Not every Christian believes the way you do. And theologians far more versed in Scripture than I believe what I believe. My thoughts aren’t just my own musings. I read a lot. And to me, the clear reading of the text shows me that Jesus came to die on the cross and that he will come again in a triumphant return, gathering his people. That’s the plain text of the Bible including the verses you provided yesterday. I believe there will be a Second Coming. You believe in a third.

Alice Lookingglass

Oh good grief - this is ridiculous - you're only hope is to have someone explain it to you; maybe by attending a Bible study or counseling with a pastor who is learned in eschatology? You're using your logic by reading into how someone else interprets; can't you think for yourself? Pray, read and pray again to let the Holy Spirit convict you - Jesus said we need to have childlike faith.

aj0201@gmail.col

Sigh. There are all kinds of people who are experts in eschatology who don’t ascribe to pre tribulation rapture. My thoughts are not only not new, nor are they unique, they also go along with the majority of the history of the church. Prior to John Nelson Darby, there was virtually 0 teaching or writing in Christian history that supports the view of a rapture as you describe it. This teaching would not have been familiar to King James, since that is part of the discussion. It isn’t present in the Nicene Creed nor the Apostles Creed. The “rapture” as I believe you are presenting, comes from “dispensational theology,” the theology of Darby. Sorry, but the early church didn’t teach this nor do all Christian teachers and theologians today. But here’s the thing, and this is important, the rapture isn’t essential doctrine. That Jesus is coming is.

jdw64485

What!!!!. When your taken away before it occurred that's a pretty good indication that you will not face tribulation. How hard is that to understand aj? My family will be gone so we will not face it.

Alice Lookingglass

When studying scripture, I allow the Holy Spirit to help me understand what it is that God wants me to know. I don't rely on what a small percentage of the so called "experts" say - a real Christian is able to determine the truth. So sad to have to depend on what others say even when it's incorrect in order to just argue without actually having the Holy Spirit reveal and be able to discern the truth of the Gospel.

aj0201@gmail.col

No verse says Jesus comes twice. They don’t exist. No verse promises you that the tribulation will happen and you’ll be gone.

jdw64485

Now an in your 4:03 post you are now changing your comment. You were saying that Jesus only returned once. Now your saying he did come the second time. And I'm saying he came three time. I've never said he came three times. He was born to die for our sins. Being born is not the same as coming back to earth. Try googling the second coming of Christ. It should take you to the Moody Bible Institute. Which explains the second coming if christ. If this doesn't explain it to you nothing will. Do you believe God and Jesus are one in the same. God the Father, God the Son and God the Holy Ghost.

aj0201@gmail.col

Alice, in the 2000 year history of the church, approximately 170 years or so has this been taught. My interpretation stands with the VAST majority of “experts.”

Alice Lookingglass

The second coming is spoken of in greatest detail in Revelation 19:11-16, “I saw heaven standing open and there before me was a white horse, whose rider is called Faithful and True. With justice he judges and makes war. His eyes are like blazing fire, and on his head are many crowns. He has a name written on him that no one knows but he himself. He is dressed in a robe dipped in blood, and his name is the Word of God. The armies of heaven were following him, riding on white horses and dressed in fine linen, white and clean. Out of his mouth comes a sharp sword with which to strike down the nations. ‘He will rule them with an iron scepter.’ He treads the winepress of the fury of the wrath of God Almighty. On his robe and on his thigh he has this name written: KING OF KINGS AND LORD OF LORDS.”

aj0201@gmail.col

jdw, 1Thess 4:17 says that Jesus will come for his people and that they will meet him in the air. This verse is the basis for the rapture teaching. Jesus “will come.” You and Moody believe this and then believe that he will come again for final divine judgement. Between his birth, his coming for his people, and his coming for judgement, that appears to be 3 times. I believe that 1 Thess 4 is speaking about his only return. When he comes then, that’s it. Are we raptured towet him in the clouds? Sure. Use that term. Are we spared the tribulation? I don’t see that verse anywhere.

eye4.n.eye2day@gmail.com

When peaceful protesters antagonize the police and become disruptive and violet, it's time to KNOCK SOME HEADS

aj0201@gmail.col

Benito Trumpolini would be proud of your fascist thoughts.

When police do their job properly, the rioters will stop.

jdw64485

I'm not going through the rapture. Let me ask you this both aj and Alice. I'm just what you believe. I don't believe baptism will safe you

What do you believe

aj0201@gmail.col

No. Baptism is a public profession of faith, not a necessary deed for salvation.

Alice Lookingglass

No I don't believe baptism will save a person...I've seen too many people who rush to have their family baptized and then they fall away. I also don't believe in "once saved, always saved" either. By that I mean, the person didn't actually allow God to enter their heart during the experience. What I do believe is that it's all about an open heart - that's what allows God's grace to enter and change us. Revivals are good but many people go forward because they are caught up in the hype only to fall away later.

aj0201@gmail.col

That leads to the question of if they never let God unto their heart, were they saved in the first place?

jdw64485

I believe if a person is truly saved then they can't lose their salivation. They can loose their relationship with God but not their salvation. I can back this up with scripture. I explain it like this. Your a child you do something wrong. Your father punishes you but he doesn't kick you out of the house. If you tell him your sorry that you made a mistake your father would forgive you. Now apply that same scenario to God. You will have to ask for his forgiveness but he will not kick you out of the house (heaven). So yes as a independent Baptist I believe in once saved always saved. Google once saved always saved. It will take you to some scriptures to back this up

Now I'm not going to tell either of you what to believe. But I would hate to go through life thinking I could loose my salvation and miss heaven. After all we're human we're going to make mistakes in life. Just remember we're all sinners saved by grace. I would feel save in saying we all at some point today committed a sin.

aj0201@gmail.col

Agree jdw.

munchman

They saY you can't fix stupid, TURNS OUT you can't quarantine it either,

WakeUpUSA

Did munchies break his quarantine again..? [ohmy][tongue_smile][whistling][thumbdown]

eye4.n.eye2day@gmail.com

doubtful munchie even knows how to think much less quarantine

eye4.n.eye2day@gmail.com

They say you can't fix stupid, .. perfect example is munchiegirl

bigoak

Back to the bunker, Munch!

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